The war mongers are beating their drums again, this time against Syria, something our government promised we would have no part in, yet today Geoff Hoon made it patently clear that Syria is in the sights of the coalition if it fails to stop experimenting with the development of weapons of mass destruction, and that it should stop helping Iraq with it’s WMD – despite the fact that we didn’t find any in Iraq! We’ve not even finished the job in Iraq yet, we’ve not found Saddam Hussain, or many of the top echelons of his regime, and yet we’ve got people harping on about how the war in Iraq is over.
I’m so angry and disappointed that we seem to be so blatantly tagging along with whatever the American administration think is a good idea, and our politicians are so happy to lie to us on the one hand whilst siding with the American’s on the other. We didn’t finish the job in Afghanistan, we haven’t finished the job (yet) in Iraq, and it’ll be bloody lunacy to even contemplate taking action (military or otherwise) against Syria.
Britain should step back from the “war against terror” whilst it has the chance, distance itself from the American administration and take this one chance to avoid bypassing the UN yet again which America will no doubt do if Colin Powell et al get their claws into Syria…
Posted in Politics
Tagged Iraq, Syria, War, WMD
So we’ve gone to war… Last night I sat up and watched as the first air raids began on Iraq, I watched and wondered how long it would be before the politicians started to backtrack on the “it’ll be short, sharp and decisive” and started to admit the truth that it will be a long drawn out affair, and it didn’t take them long, the war isn’t in iraq, it’s right here in britain, it’s a public relations war, it’s telling the public what the public want to hear to keep opinion polls unnaturally high.
I’m extremely worried…
Hmmm, this is not a good idea. The stop the war coalition is planning to cause walk outs and occupy civil buildings in the event of war breaking out. Now regardless of whether you believe the war to be illegal or immoral, I think that bringing the country to its knees through civil action is highly unlikely to do anything other than alienate the cause.
To underline this I’d like to point the finger at the London underground, whilst I understand the causes they strike for, I do not believe that striking has anything other than a detrimental effect on their cause, because the public (fired on by the government and media and their own inconvenience) resent the people causing the problem, and unfortunately during a strike it is the workers not the management causing the problem.
If a load of anti-war types rush around barricading public roads and buildings the public, media and government will hold them directly responsible for life being made difficult. We all know that this is going to be a “remote” war, and day to day it’s highly unlikely to affect (with the exception of possible terrorist attack) the daily life of the average British citizen. Therefore anything that makes life difficult in Britain will probably be caused by protest rather than the war itself.
Now let me reiterate: I am staunchly against this war, as I have written elsewhere I do not believe that America and Britain et al can validate the causes they say they are fighting for, as I believe this war to be the American administrations blood thirst and need for control (not to mention oil) showing through. But I will not support any action by anti-war protesters to cause civil unrest and disobedience in the UK. Regardless of how it might be phrased in the stopwar documentation this kind of action would lead to civil unrest, and that can only be a bad thing for the greater cause.
This country is a civilised nation, we have a democratic society where we vote for our administration and we have a right to legally protest in a civilised manner, I think that the stop the war coalition’s efforts would be better aimed at directly talking to members of parliament and raising awareness of the considerable unease at the morally shaky war it looks increasingly more inevitable that we will be involved in.
I for one will be hanging my head in shame at being part of this nation if we decide to fight this illegal and immoral war
A village somewhere in Texas is missing it’s idiot: One of the best slogans from the anti-war march in london yesterday, and in my humble opinion probably one of the fairest comments, as if Mr Bush continues with this campaign it will all end up firing back in his face, what country that’s on his hit list will he go after once he’s finished with Iraq? North Korea maybe? Or why not have another crack at Vietnam? If there was one person on the face of the planet who I could point a finger at as being a threat to national security, then it would be George W Bush, because never has one person made me feel so unsafe.
Ken Livingstone gained by respect yesterday with his support of the London anti-war protest, there are many who tried to stop it (on grounds as daft as it would damage the grass in Hyde Park) but Ken stood up for the right for civil protest, it’s nice to know at least one of our politicians, regardless of his other policies, isn’t stupid enough to see that he is nothing more than an *elected representitive of the people*. Nice to see Charles Kennedy at the anti-war march as well, a great speech, he’ll get my vote next time round.
Posted in Politics
Tagged Iraq, W, War
That many people cannot be wrong, we really shouldn’t be going to war, if you still think we should I ask you now to consider the people who will be put at risk, the people that will die needlessly and the people who have vested interests in controling the regime in Iraq. War is stupid.
For more details, signing petitions, and getting involved here: www.stopwar.org.uk
Posted in Politics
Tagged Iraq, War
Someone said to me today that we “should always stand by America because they’ve always stood by us” but I have to disagree, and the reason I’m disagreeing so violently is that our prime minister is ignoring the countries we should be closest too in order to appease the American government and by doing this he’s putting the UK in the firing line and putting citizens of our our major cities at risk because he refuses to distance the UK for the George W Bush’s blood-thirst for war.
The current crap our media is pumping out is that the American’s have always stood up for the UK, but this simply isn’t true: where were they when England was being bombed to rubble in the Blitz? It took Japan bombing Pearl Harbour before the USA decided to help us out. If we’re going to start trying to pump the British public full of propaganda about the yank’s being oh so great friends of the UK compared to Germany and France, where was the US governments sympathy when the IRA bombed the UK, where were they when they should have been standing “shoulder to shoulder” with the UK in a war against terror.
The US government is being utterly hypocritical, in one hand over the past 30 years it has actively allowed fund raising on it’s grounds for terror groups including the IRA and ETA, and it’s funded the arming of militant groups around the world in order to swing the balance of power toward the US, and yet in the other hand when thing’s don’t go the way of the Bush administration it feels it has a unilateral right to go to war. The result of this is the UN and the British people are having the piss taken out of it in the biggest way possible because it’s blatantly obvious that the US Government has no plans to listen to the findings of the UN and if pushed will make up “evidence” in order to support it’s case for war… the recent “dossier of terror” in the UK was a prime example of the UK and USA finding any old excuse to go to war with Iraq in the name of “finding osama bin laden et al” despite the fact it’s well known that osama and his group of nutters are despised in Iraq and that Iraq actively pursues and executes members of that organisation.
It’s a real shame that in the name of “democracy” the US and UK governments are ignoring the voice of the people crying out not to put us in the firing line, Bush and Blair both have bomb shelters to run to when the dirty bombs and hijacked passenger planes start falling from the sky, and they have sealed rooms to go to when suicide bombers launch biological weapons on the tube or in the middle of oxford street, it might not have occurred to them that it is us the public who don’t have those facilities, it is us who will die if Iraq decides to fight back, or Osama and his bunch of nutters decide to launch a terror attack on our cities… So please Mr’s Bush and Blair…. rethink, listen to the people and the other nations telling you that this is a terminally stupid idea…
I really should clarify: When I say “America” wants a war, it’s not a slur, it’s just a generalisation: George Dub’ya Bush wants a war, or more pointedly he wants to finish something his Father started.
As far as the UK goes, we all know that Blair will follow Bush round like a little lost puppy… despite what his government might think, despite what the opposition thinks, despite what the British public think… pissed off? annoyed? you bet we are – the quicker Blair is removed from his pedestal the better, I can’t wait to vote again, because (yet again) I won’t be voting for Blair.
Posted in News, Politics
Tagged Iraq, War
Please read this, Meg has hit the nail so firmly on the head. It is not Tony Blair’s place to decide single handedly where the country should go to war. It doesn’t seem to matter that everyone else in the UK and Europe seems to think it’s a bad idea, little Mr Blair seems almost manically intent on dragging us into America’s internal grudge war with Iraq. We all know Saddam isn’t the nicest person in the world, in fact he’s a bit of a nutter, but I don’t see us declaring war on other nutters, the Mugabe’s and such of this world? This “war” is a son finishing off his Dad’s unfinished grudge match, it’s about oil, it’s about American principles and it’s definitely not anything that the UK should be involved in.
It’s all very well Tony Blair saying it’s only a matter of time before there is a terrorist attack on the UK, but we all know that what that really means is there will be a terrorist attack on London, and that if and when it does happen Tony Blair will be the first into the bunkers not to surface until the dust or gas or whatever other foul means of killing people these terrorists decide to use. As a voter in a democratic nation I’d like to see my view represented in Government: This country does not need a war, it cannot afford a war, and the public shouldn’t be duped with talk of possible collateral damage to the UK… that is military speak for people dying.
If the USA wants a war it’s big enough and ugly enough to look after itself, I’d like to hazard a guess that most sane liberal American’s aren’t that keen on a war either. But for those that are, and for the sake of our under-educated government the UK lost the war of independence with the USA… We don’t have to follow them into every conflict, we shouldn’t, and I for one will not agree or support any action taken against Iraq to satisfy George W Bush’s thirst for Iraq’s oil at the expense of UK soldiers and citizens.